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Old 10-28-2011, 02:05 AM   #1
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Trade agreement links

http://community.cardboardconnection...trade&tid=1434

http://community.cardboardconnection...trade&tid=1437

I have included all the correspondence applicable to the trade below. I can forward any applicable PM’s as needed. My issue is as follows.

1) All of the cards reek of tobacco smoke.
2) Over 90% of the cards are either creased, scuffed, stained, bad corners, back damage, etc
3) The method of shipping the cards was to put them in bulk in a PWE and then place them in a bubble mailer. Little to no care was taken to ensure they arrived undamaged though it is obvious that the cards were damaged before hand.

My USPS Tracking # for this trade is 03091140000113334230
Shipped on Oct 11
Received on Oct 13

Her USPS Tracking # for this trade is 9574210519641290442417
Shipped on Oct 17
Received on Oct 20

PM's have not been responded to.




On September 30, 2011 I posted this thread under the heading of Team Traders

Team Traders

On October 1, 2011 wiseguy100110 posted this in the thread

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ill take the steelers, 49ers and cowboys. let me know how much that will be and ill get the same book value worth of saints cards for you.

I sent a PM on October 2, 2011 stating

I have no clue as to book value as I don't have a current Beckett. I can send you a list on Tuesday as that's my next off day, I can send you the cards and you can send what you think is fair, or I'm open to any other suggestions.



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ill take the steelers, 49ers and cowboys. let me know how much that will be and ill get the same book value worth of saints cards for you.

She responded on October 2, 2011

here is a great site for looking up the value of football cards

Free Football Card Price Guide

that way you know your not getting ripped off. i just started trading on here but im sure when you trade teams that most people take out all of the good players and the 2 or 5 dollar cards. if there are any nice cards or real famous players in the cards you send i will be sure to send you some big name starts also. all of my cards are in great condition too.

ps. i have a few wrestling cards too but i dont know how to look them up to see what they are worth.

I responded

I will check it out tomorrow on my off day and see what I can come up with as far as a price....As far as wrestling cards, there isnt a good source out there. However, give me an idea what you got and I can give you a realistic market idea

She responded

cool, get back to me on the total book value for all three teams.
ok it looks like most of my wrestling cards are from the 90's there are a bunch of 1995 wcw "main event" "tribute" and "managers" plus 1991 wcw cards with the black background and gold stars around the edge.
a lot of stars are in there like a couple hulk hogan, some macho man, sting, mean gean, lex pressing rick 3, nasty boyz, lex pressing rick, the freebirds, scott steiner, ric flair, kevin sullivan, jimmy hart,arn anderson, steven regal, vader, jerry sags, missy hyatt. there are like 100 cards in all. there are some cards promoting pay per view shows also.

I responded

General Prices for the Wrestling

The 1991 Black Borders
Complete Sets of 110 cards usually sell for about $20
Flair, Sting $1-$2 each
Hyatt, Steiners, Freebirds .50
Most everyone else .25

1995 WCW Main Event
Sets of 100 usually sell $25-30
Austin - $5
Hogan, Macho, Flair, Sting, Booker T, Dustin Rhodes are an easy $1-2 each
Luger, Vader, Arn, Steiners, Nasty Boys, Stevie Ray, Pillman, Heenan, Okerland, Freebirds are .50-$1 each
Most of the rest are about .25 each

I then responded

Ok, after a lot of looking, I think this is where we are...

Steelers $52.75
49ers $51.00
Cowboys $57.75
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Total $161.50

She responded

wow, maybe i shouldn't of gave you that site to check prices, lol. yeah you would of taken a loss on a bulk team trade. you must have some good cards in with them teams i wanted.
it will be close but i can get that much worth of saints cards. i can also throw in some wcw cards to even out the trade.

I responded

When I do bulk trading I dont pull much out. LMK and we can post it

She responded

i only found 20 some dollars worth of saints cards. are there any other cards you want? players or teams or any special cards

I responded

Definitely interested in any of the wrestling to make up the difference.

As far as other people I collect

Football - Maurkice Pouncey, James Laurinaitis, Clay Matthews, Brian Bosworth, Pat Tilley

Baseball - pre 1981 Pittsburgh Pirates

NASCAR - Tony Stewart, Robby Gordon, Kyle Bush, Dale Earnhardt Jr, Todd Bodine

She responded

ok i pulled out 30 some wrestling cards. from what you said and what i saw online, together they are worth 14 or 15 bucks. i should be able to get enough cards together to cover the steelers cards. i thought i had more saints cards since my football collection is so big.

are them football players you like from the 80's and 90's? if so i will have some of them too. i have like 1 or 2 nascar cards but they are probably not worth much and it will be like finding a needle in a haystack. i do have a pack of nascar playing cards in a collection i bought. they are probably just worth what the kid payed for them though, like 3 - 5 bucks. unless the aces or jokers and stuff are worth something.

I responded

Got the Steelers pulled for you. If you want, Id trade you the 49ers and Cowboys for any remaining wrestling cards even if the trade is in your favor, I'm cool with that. Not really interested in the NASCAR playing cards...

She responded

i dont have many more wrestling cards. i might be able to give you like 10 or 15 more of them. i have some pretty nice football cards i can give you too. like herschel walker, jim kelly, warren moon, bo jackson.... i could get like 20 or 30 cards worth like 10 to 15 bucks and like 10 to 15 bucks more in wrestling cards.

I responded

post the trade and I will get them out to you

She responded

cool, i posted a trade. ill make sure i put some pretty good cards in there to even out the trade like hogan and macho man. ill throw a couple of them in there to make it a little more fare. i did see a couple wrestling cards worth a dollar but you can't find them on sale for less that 4 dollars so you won't make out that bad. ill put some really good football cards in there too.

Then added

hey, sorry i though that trade i made up did not look right. i forgot to mention the saints cards. there will be like 75 of them in the package too.

I responded

No problem. I knew what you meant lol. Wont be able to get to the post office til Monday as I have to go into work early tomorrow.

She replied

i'll just make up another trade saying ill give you 75 saints cards for like one card or something. just to have it officially in writing
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No response to the pm or email,will call tomorrow
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Received a pm response today and was informed that WiseGuy100110 is in contact with SmokeRobbyOnion.

Please keep the trade dispute updated here.
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Sending both a pm for an update.
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Hey guys,anything new on this?
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Email sent to both.
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Never heard back from either of them,dispute is closed
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Reopening this since I heard back from SmokeRobbyOnion so that it can be updated.
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WiseGuy100110 has agreed to send some replacement cards for the damaged ones. Will update when they arrive.
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