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    To the executive committee and members of CCW,

    First, thank you all for your time, energy, patience (With idiots like me, LOL!), discipline, and the extra long hours involved.

    My question today is what is a TTM? I do see that these are addresses to athletes. I assume that you can write to these athletes and request a autograph on photo or in my case a card.

    I've read on CBC that there is an unspoken protocol or to use a better term, etiquette to request a autograph. This is what I recall. I would send an envelope to the athlete in question. I would place two duplicate cards and a stamped, return envelope for the athlete to mail back my potential autograph card. A letter would also be placed in this envelope stating that I am a fan, and shower them with truthful accolades and any other type of inspiration received from the athlete. Then I would ask if the athlete would sign one card(s) and place it in the stamped return envelope and mail it back to me at his convenience. The duplicate card was the athletes card as a gift from me for him/her to keep, and of course end the letter with a thank you.

    I want to attempt this process as I've seen a specific seller on eBay with on-card autos obtained in this very fashion as he so states. He sells these cards albeit at a reasonable price point. From Richard Sherman at or around $28.00 to Andrew Luck or Jim Brown at or around $40.00 to $50.00. Of course his eBay store has much more cards of athletes of various sports. If he can achieve such a task with inexpensive base cards and the cost of two "Forever Stamps" and two envelopes, would it not be reasonable to assume in theory that I could achieve this very same goal? As you all know, purchasing a (As an example) autographed card certified by Topps, Panini, and or Upper Deck can be cost prohibitive. But cards from these manufactures are guaranteed to be authentic. I just can't afford the purchasing of such a card. So my questions are as follows:

    1) Has anyone ever attempted this? How successful was this process?

    2) In the third paragraph, is this process correct? Or is there another? What do you use as your process to make it simple and achieve your goal?

    3) Would it be reasonable to assume that both cards should be in a penny sleeve, which would then be placed into a top loader? Or is there another way of mailing the cards?

    4) This question is important to me. Am I wasting my time? This question will be based on this next question. What is your percentage of success? As an example, did all the cards sent out returned with an auto 100% of the time or just 50% of the time?

    5) Any information is extremely appreciated!


    My goal here is just to have a collection of on-card autos of my favorite football players for my own personal collection. I would also like to send the cards in to PSA/DNA for authentication. I only own 5 certified cards. I purchased a certified card shoe box just for my 5 certified cards. I did this due to the fact that as you all know, the size of a certified card is taller than a magnetic case. I am methodotically pre-preparing for a new genre to add to my collection. I think it's another venue in collecting that sounds fun and exciting! That's what collecting should be about in my humble opinion. Any other type of information that comes to mind would be greatly appreciated!

    Thank you,
    Toshi
    Last edited by hayn; 05-01-2014, 07:38 AM.
    I am easy, I collect any and all NFL cards. Individual players I really enjoy are Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan, Andrew Luck, RGIII, and Russell Wilson. My passion is Favre rookie cards and vintage cards.


    http://sportscardalbum.com/u/toshi

  • #2
    I want to add, should this process be done in pre-season and or post-season? I'm asking this question as we all know during the season, these athletes are consumed in their games and constantly preparing for the next game.

    Or, is it a situation that does not matter at all?

    Finally, how long in general does this process take in your personal experience with a particular athlete?

    Thank you again,

    Toshi
    I am easy, I collect any and all NFL cards. Individual players I really enjoy are Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan, Andrew Luck, RGIII, and Russell Wilson. My passion is Favre rookie cards and vintage cards.


    http://sportscardalbum.com/u/toshi

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    • #3
      Toshi,
      first of all, if you are doing TTM to make a profit, it is probably not the best use of your money for the investment. Many of the stars you pointed out, will not sign through the mail. Some of them do for a fee (usually anywhere from $5 - $50). The majority of my TTMs are commons or semi stars. They are not certified and it can not usually be determined 100% if they signed the card or not. I love collecting TTM, but I do it for fun, not profit.
      Favorite baseball players include: Mike Schmidt, Steve Carlton, Kirby Puckett, Pete Rose, Tyler Colvin Mark Appel
      Favorite football players include: Peyton Manning, John Elway, Daunte Culpepper, Mike Alstott, Blake Bortles, and Dri Archer
      Collecting: 2012 Topps Mini 1987 topps... non-certified autos (in person or through the mail), autographed cards with bible verses

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ucffans View Post
        Toshi,
        first of all, if you are doing TTM to make a profit, it is probably not the best use of your money for the investment. Many of the stars you pointed out, will not sign through the mail. Some of them do for a fee (usually anywhere from $5 - $50). The majority of my TTMs are commons or semi stars. They are not certified and it can not usually be determined 100% if they signed the card or not. I love collecting TTM, but I do it for fun, not profit.
        To ucffans,

        My sole and only purpose of my entire football collection is for my own personal enjoyment. This is only a hobby for me as well as therapeutic help for memory loss. All cards obtained have never been for sale at all. In no means am I attempting to profit on these autographed cards mentioned.

        With that being said, I do understand the issue of some athletes not autographing cards. Those were just some of the many examples of a eBay seller and what he had in his store. My purpose to have them authenticated is just to own card(s) the are or in this case that you stated above certified. It's really the; "Wow, Cool factor".

        If you can answer my five questions I would be extremely grateful. Thank you for your reply.

        Toshi
        I am easy, I collect any and all NFL cards. Individual players I really enjoy are Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan, Andrew Luck, RGIII, and Russell Wilson. My passion is Favre rookie cards and vintage cards.


        http://sportscardalbum.com/u/toshi

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        • #5
          Toshi - I can certainly help you out with a list of players who I would recommend sending cards to who are good at returning them. I have found the best people to send to are players from around 1980-1995. They are retired, have a little bit of time, and are happy people still remember them!
          Favorite baseball players include: Mike Schmidt, Steve Carlton, Kirby Puckett, Pete Rose, Tyler Colvin Mark Appel
          Favorite football players include: Peyton Manning, John Elway, Daunte Culpepper, Mike Alstott, Blake Bortles, and Dri Archer
          Collecting: 2012 Topps Mini 1987 topps... non-certified autos (in person or through the mail), autographed cards with bible verses

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ucffans View Post
            Toshi - I can certainly help you out with a list of players who I would recommend sending cards to who are good at returning them. I have found the best people to send to are players from around 1980-1995. They are retired, have a little bit of time, and are happy people still remember them!
            Thank you so much! I would love to have this list.
            I am easy, I collect any and all NFL cards. Individual players I really enjoy are Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan, Andrew Luck, RGIII, and Russell Wilson. My passion is Favre rookie cards and vintage cards.


            http://sportscardalbum.com/u/toshi

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            • #7
              Here are some good players to get TTM (through the mail)

              Football
              Ozzie Newsom - 6 Padonia Woods Ct, Cockeysville, MD 21030
              Harry Carsons - PO Box 852 Westwood, NJ 07675
              Billy Simms - PO Box 3147 Coppell, TX 75019


              Baseball
              Jamie Moyer 2426 32nd Avenue West, Seattle WA 98199
              Larry Bowa 302 Overbrook Lane Conshohocken, PA 19248
              Jeff Reardon 20 Marlwood Lane Palm Beach Gardens, FL 33418
              Mike Cameron 111 Congressional Ct. McDonough, GA 30253


              Basketball
              Joe Dumars c/o Detroit Pistons The Palace Of Auburn Hills 2 Championship Dr. Auburn Hills, MI 48326-1753
              Nate Tiny Archibald 2920 Holland Ave. Bronx, NY 10467
              Dirk Nowitzki c/o Dallas Mavericks 2500 Victory Ave Dallas, TX 75219
              Favorite baseball players include: Mike Schmidt, Steve Carlton, Kirby Puckett, Pete Rose, Tyler Colvin Mark Appel
              Favorite football players include: Peyton Manning, John Elway, Daunte Culpepper, Mike Alstott, Blake Bortles, and Dri Archer
              Collecting: 2012 Topps Mini 1987 topps... non-certified autos (in person or through the mail), autographed cards with bible verses

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              • #8
                Here are the top 50 in terms of items returned. Keep in mind, some of these people charge a fee and some of them have passed away recently. If you are interested in the address for them, let me know.

                1 Walker, Herschel 911 989 92%
                2 Newsome, Ozzie 895 922 97%
                3 Bednarik, Chuck 880 911 96%
                4 Theismann, Joe 791 822 96%
                5 McMahon, Jim 740 765 96%
                6 Stabler, Ken 634 691 91%
                7 Joiner, Charlie 628 643 97%
                8 Manning, Peyton 614 1030 59%
                9 Reed, Andre 568 609 93%
                10 Blanda, George 511 547 93%
                11 Fouts, Dan 503 650 77%
                12 Largent, Steve 474 579 81%
                13 Carson, Harry 472 491 96%
                14 Taylor, Lawrence 454 529 85%
                15 Johnson, Larry 446 531 83%
                16 Lilly, Bob 445 482 92%
                17 Berry, Raymond 443 470 94%
                18 Marchetti, Gino 440 451 97%
                19 Montana, Joe 434 574 75%
                20 George, Jeff 411 431 95%
                21 Griese, Bob 404 443 91%
                22 Clark, Dallas 396 429 92%
                23 Bradshaw, Terry 385 455 84%
                24 Grogan, Steve 383 404 94%
                25 Shula, Don 382 514 74%
                26 Kilmer, Billy 365 369 98%
                27 Trippi, Charley 345 355 97%
                28 Jones, Ed "Too Tall" 336 371 90%
                29 Campbell, Earl 326 388 84%
                30 Robustelli, Andy 324 344 94%
                31 Madden, John 316 361 87%
                32 Moon, Warren 316 439 71%
                33 Schmidt, Joe 313 325 96%
                34 Davis, Willie 311 322 96%
                35 Rozier, Mike 295 319 92%
                36 Brees, Drew 289 437 66%
                37 LeBeau, Dick 285 291 97%
                38 Sims, Billy 284 359 79%
                39 Anderson, Ken 283 310 91%
                40 Cappelletti, John 279 290 96%
                41 Roethlisberger, Ben 273 437 62%
                42 Bruce, Isaac 272 320 85%
                43 Little, Larry 269 292 92%
                44 Reeves, Dan 268 278 96%
                45 Karras, Alex 264 278 94%
                46 Hanburger, Chris 262 267 98%
                47 Sayers, Gale 258 329 78%
                48 Delhomme, Jake 256 341 75%
                49 Lujack, Johnny 255 259 98%
                50 Sharpe, Sterling 249 303 82%
                Favorite baseball players include: Mike Schmidt, Steve Carlton, Kirby Puckett, Pete Rose, Tyler Colvin Mark Appel
                Favorite football players include: Peyton Manning, John Elway, Daunte Culpepper, Mike Alstott, Blake Bortles, and Dri Archer
                Collecting: 2012 Topps Mini 1987 topps... non-certified autos (in person or through the mail), autographed cards with bible verses

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                • #9
                  Wow! Thank you so much! I crossed check the names to the TTM adress, and I assume I can utilize those addresses. As an example, I want a Peyton Manning auto, the adress is for the Peyitback foundation. Do I request an auto with a promise of a donation?

                  Can you tell me the steps on how you would send a request for an auto out.

                  Thank you in advance.
                  Toshi
                  I am easy, I collect any and all NFL cards. Individual players I really enjoy are Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan, Andrew Luck, RGIII, and Russell Wilson. My passion is Favre rookie cards and vintage cards.


                  http://sportscardalbum.com/u/toshi

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                  • #10
                    To ucffans,

                    Please except my apologies. Mrs. Toshi pointed out that I should have written this thread on the TTM section. If this needs to be moved there, please do so.

                    Thank you,
                    Toshi
                    I am easy, I collect any and all NFL cards. Individual players I really enjoy are Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan, Andrew Luck, RGIII, and Russell Wilson. My passion is Favre rookie cards and vintage cards.


                    http://sportscardalbum.com/u/toshi

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                    • #11
                      Peyton Manning is in care of his foundation. I have tried twice and have not been successful with him. By the 59%, he does sign, but I did not include a donation. Next time I will include a $5 check.
                      Favorite baseball players include: Mike Schmidt, Steve Carlton, Kirby Puckett, Pete Rose, Tyler Colvin Mark Appel
                      Favorite football players include: Peyton Manning, John Elway, Daunte Culpepper, Mike Alstott, Blake Bortles, and Dri Archer
                      Collecting: 2012 Topps Mini 1987 topps... non-certified autos (in person or through the mail), autographed cards with bible verses

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ucffans View Post
                        Peyton Manning is in care of his foundation. I have tried twice and have not been successful with him. By the 59%, he does sign, but I did not include a donation. Next time I will include a $5 check.
                        LOL! I was thinking of more in the $25.00 range! Of course I would send out a decent 1998 rookie card of his to get a auto on.



                        In regards to your comment of difficulties in certification process:

                        I also read that a member sent out several TTM autos to PSA/DNA, out of twenty, only two came back certified. The rest were deemed fake. The majority of the cards were of Peyton Manning. The member wrote back to Peyitback stating how disappointed he was even after a donation was given. Mannings personal secretary wrote back and said he personally signs all autos and mailed the member two 8x10's with Mannings autos.

                        His next step was to send the autos to a Mr. Drew Max. He is a forensic specialist in Vegas. Mrs. Toshi and I pulled his credentials and it's legitimate. The autos were deemed authentic! WOW!
                        I am easy, I collect any and all NFL cards. Individual players I really enjoy are Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan, Andrew Luck, RGIII, and Russell Wilson. My passion is Favre rookie cards and vintage cards.


                        http://sportscardalbum.com/u/toshi

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                        • #13
                          I'm very excited to try my first TTM! I'll go on eBay and look for a couple of Peyton Rookie Cards and a few inexpensive Manning lots. I want to also donate a lot of Peyton Manning cards to his foundation as well as the $25.00. Then it's a wait and see scenario. If I don't get anything back, I don't mind in this case.

                          In my humble opinion, we can't keep taking and taking, that gets us nowhere. Sometime in our very short time here, we need to truly realize who we are and why we are here and focus not just on ourselves but what we could be doing to make things just that much better. If at all, at least for our own children. You never know, one day, you'll just might not wake up is what I tell my children, and I emphasize to them that if they find themselves waking up, thank whatever God or higher power you believe in and make the day count for you and what you believe in.
                          Last edited by hayn; 05-02-2014, 07:12 AM.
                          I am easy, I collect any and all NFL cards. Individual players I really enjoy are Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan, Andrew Luck, RGIII, and Russell Wilson. My passion is Favre rookie cards and vintage cards.


                          http://sportscardalbum.com/u/toshi

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                          • #14
                            Yeah, Peyton was good for me at his foundation. Sent two cards at separate times, one without a donation, and one with. I ended up getting both back.

                            Collecting: Browns/Cavaliers/Indians GU/Autos,
                            Ohio State Autos, Jamaal Charles GU/Autos,
                            Johnson/Mears/
                            Reutimann/Nadeau

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jsab4807 View Post
                              Yeah, Peyton was good for me at his foundation. Sent two cards at separate times, one without a donation, and one with. I ended up getting both back.

                              That sounds great, I'll definitely make Peyton Manning my first attempt to TTM. Thank you for the info jsab4807.
                              I am easy, I collect any and all NFL cards. Individual players I really enjoy are Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan, Andrew Luck, RGIII, and Russell Wilson. My passion is Favre rookie cards and vintage cards.


                              http://sportscardalbum.com/u/toshi

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