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  • Jamey Carroll Should Be An All-Star


    Jamey Carroll should be an All-Star this season. I repeat, Jamey Carroll should be an All-Star this season.

    Most fans probably don't know who that is or haven't seen him play since he's never been an elite player. His 2011 season has been impressive if you look past his lack of power.

    With the news about Jose Reyes landing on the DL and Troy Tulowitzki has a right quadriceps strain he suffered Tuesday night, it opens up a spot for a middle-infielder. Maybe two spots if Tulowitzki can't return before the All-Star break.

    Danny Espinosa, of the Washington Nationals, is probably going to take Jose Reyes' All-Star spot. He's got 16 HRs and 50 RBIs but his .247 AVG isn't that great.

    I mentioned earlier that Jamey Carroll doesn't have power but he's one of the hardest-working ball players I've seen. He makes an effort for every grounder or fly ball hit in his direction. He hustles to first on a routine out. He can play 2B, SS, 3B and I'm sure he can play just about anywhere if you ask him. He's the perfect utility man for a late-inning situation.

    Carroll only has 8 RBIs on the season, but that's not his fault. The Dodgers are 25th in the league with only 328 runs scored this season. His .303 AVG is tied for 11th best in the National League. You know who has the best batting average on the road? Not Matt Kemp, Not Jose Reyes, Jamey Carroll does. He's hitting .370 on the road and that leads the entire MLB, not just National League.

    So if Omar Infante can make an All-Star team, then why not Jamey Carroll?


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    Um no. Sorry but Rollins is having a much better year and is playing for a winner. Theriot is having a better year then Carrol, and no one is saying he should be an All Star.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Peties Army View Post
      Um no. Sorry but Rollins is having a much better year and is playing for a winner. Theriot is having a better year then Carrol, and no one is saying he should be an All Star.
      How are they having a better season? Because they hit more HRs? Because they play for a team that have runners on base for them?

      Jamey Carroll doesn't even play every day yet he has the best MLB batting average on the road.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by JesRey View Post
        How are they having a better season? Because they hit more HRs? Because they play for a team that have runners on base for them?

        Jamey Carroll doesn't even play every day yet he has the best MLB batting average on the road.
        Rollins is having a better year because, well, he is. Way more Runs, way more HRs, way more RBIs and way more SB. OPS are basically the same with Carroll with the slight edge.

        Theroit may not be having a better year, but his year is just as good as Carolls.

        What a random stat to prove a point. Who cares that he is leading MLB in batting average on the road? We all the new stats we all know about, we are proving that BA is one of the worst judges of how good a year a player is having.

        Not trying to be a jerk, but he doesn't deserve to be an All Star over Rollins for sure. Heck I would say Hanley, for as bad as he has been, is probably more deserving the Carroll.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by JesRey View Post
          How are they having a better season? Because they hit more HRs? Because they play for a team that have runners on base for them?

          Jamey Carroll doesn't even play every day yet he has the best MLB batting average on the road.
          And yes, I would say hitting more HRs and driving in runs is a pretty good indicator if someone is having a better year then someone else.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Peties Army View Post
            Rollins is having a better year because, well, he is. Way more Runs, way more HRs, way more RBIs and way more SB. OPS are basically the same with Carroll with the slight edge.

            Theroit may not be having a better year, but his year is just as good as Carolls.

            What a random stat to prove a point. Who cares that he is leading MLB in batting average on the road? We all the new stats we all know about, we are proving that BA is one of the worst judges of how good a year a player is having.

            Not trying to be a jerk, but he doesn't deserve to be an All Star over Rollins for sure. Heck I would say Hanley, for as bad as he has been, is probably more deserving the Carroll.
            I hope Rollins has better stats in everything since he's got 60 more ABs plus he hits in a lineup that always have runners on base.

            Really BA is a bad stat to look at? That's one of the most important if you understand baseball. You want a guy who hits under .270 in Rollins or even Hanley who hits .237

            Jamey Carroll has done a fine job filling in for injured players all season.

            Originally posted by Peties Army View Post
            And yes, I would say hitting more HRs and driving in runs is a pretty good indicator if someone is having a better year then someone else.
            The little things in baseball matter just as much, like getting on base for the other hitters to get you home. defense is pretty important as well. Being an All-Star isn't all about HRs or else Mark Teixeria would be an All-Star.

            Why is Starlin Castro on the All-Star team? He's only got 2 HRs
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            • #7
              Originally posted by JesRey View Post
              I hope Rollins has better stats in everything since he's got 60 more ABs plus he hits in a lineup that always have runners on base.

              Really BA is a bad stat to look at? That's one of the most important if you understand baseball. You want a guy who hits under .270 in Rollins or even Hanley who hits .237

              Jamey Carroll has done a fine job filling in for injured players all season.



              The little things in baseball matter just as much, like getting on base for the other hitters to get you home. defense is pretty important as well. Being an All-Star isn't all about HRs or else Mark Teixeria would be an All-Star.

              Why is Starlin Castro on the All-Star team? He's only got 2 HRs

              You give Carroll 60 more ABs and he is not making up for the 17 RBI different, 8 HR difference and 15 SB difference. He would probably have more runs. More likely if you give him 60 more ABs he would return to the 270 hitter he has been throughtout his ten year career.

              You got to be kidding me with the Average thing? I'm shocked that you would even say that, that is absurd. Try reading some up todate info on hitters. We have know for alot of years average is a poor judgement and that OBP is better judge of a players value. And while Carrolls OBP is slightly better, Rollins and Hanly huge leads in all the counting stats more then make up for the difference.

              You are right, getting on base and scoring runs is more important. And guess what? Rollins and Hanley have both been doing that better then Carroll.

              Castro is on the team because the Cubs had to have someone.

              No matter how you cut it, he isn't having an All Star type year. He just isn't.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Peties Army View Post
                You give Carroll 60 more ABs and he is not making up for the 17 RBI different, 8 HR difference and 15 SB difference. He would probably have more runs. More likely if you give him 60 more ABs he would return to the 270 hitter he has been throughtout his ten year career.

                You got to be kidding me with the Average thing? I'm shocked that you would even say that, that is absurd. Try reading some up todate info on hitters. We have know for alot of years average is a poor judgement and that OBP is better judge of a players value. And while Carrolls OBP is slightly better, Rollins and Hanly huge leads in all the counting stats more then make up for the difference.

                You are right, getting on base and scoring runs is more important. And guess what? Rollins and Hanley have both been doing that better then Carroll.

                Castro is on the team because the Cubs had to have someone.

                No matter how you cut it, he isn't having an All Star type year. He just isn't.
                The only reason Hanley/Rollins have been scoring more runs is because of their teammates, don't knock on Carroll for playing with a horrible lineup. Carroll is on base consistently. More than both of them.

                If the Cubs needed someone, they should of took Carlos Pena. But they probably noticed that AVG
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JesRey View Post
                  The only reason Hanley/Rollins have been scoring more runs is because of their teammates, don't knock on Carroll for playing with a horrible lineup. Carroll is on base consistently. More than both of them.

                  If the Cubs needed someone, they should of took Carlos Pena. But they probably noticed that AVG
                  You do know that the Phillies OFF is ranked 11 while the Dodgers are ranked 8 in the NL correct? Marlins are ranked 6. So I would say the Dodgers and Marlins have a pretty similar lineup whole Dodgers are clearly better then the Dodgers.

                  They have been scoring more rusn, as wells as Driving in more, hitting more HRs, stealing more bases. Bascially they have been doing everything better.

                  NL First base is lodead that is why Pena didn't make it over Castro.

                  Carroll doesn't deserve it. It really isn't even close.
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                  • #10
                    Oh and the Dodgers have a higher OBP then the Marlins and basically tied with the Phillie. Clearly their lineups aren't better then the Dodgers. Pretty much all the same.
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                    • #11
                      And if you are so concerned about Batting average Dodgers actually have a much better batting average then both the Phillies and the Marlins.

                      I see no fact or stat that can prove that Carroll should be an All Star.
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                      • #12
                        You don't watch the Dodgers... All their numbers look "Amazing" to you because they lead the league in SINGLES. Makes all those stats look outstanding.

                        Trust me, their offense is one of the worst in all of baseball.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JesRey View Post
                          You don't watch the Dodgers... All their numbers look "Amazing" to you because they lead the league in SINGLES. Makes all those stats look outstanding.

                          Trust me, their offense is one of the worst in all of baseball.

                          I never said they look "Amazing" all I'm saying is you said that the reason Hanley and Rollins are better is because of the much better lineups around them. Clearly that isn't the case.

                          He is batting .299 and has some awful counting stats. He doesn't deserve to be an All Star. Now if there was a spot for a super utiliy guy, then yeah I would agree maybe he has a shot, but if they are looking for a straight SS, no he isn't as good as the guys I named. It really isn't close.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Peties Army View Post
                            I never said they look "Amazing" all I'm saying is you said that the reason Hanley and Rollins are better is because of the much better lineups around them. Clearly that isn't the case.

                            He is batting .299 and has some awful counting stats. He doesn't deserve to be an All Star. Now if there was a spot for a super utiliy guy, then yeah I would agree maybe he has a shot, but if they are looking for a straight SS, no he isn't as good as the guys I named. It really isn't close.
                            The Dodgers have Kemp/Ethier and that's it. How you going to tell me the Dodgers lineup is better than the Phillies/Marlins?

                            Omar Infante made it last year and that's the only reason i wrote this.
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                            • #15
                              Just telling you want the stats say.

                              The point is Carroll doesn't deserve to be an All Star.
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