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  • #31
    Originally posted by JesRey View Post
    Derek Jeter has batted in the 1-2 spot a total of 280 times... Jamey Carroll has batted in the 1-2 spot 185 times.

    Batting 1st
    Batting 2nd

    Carroll > Jeter

    Sigh, I don't know what else to say,

    The orginal topic was that he should be an All Star. I said no and came up with two names having better years then Carroll. Rollins and Hanley are having better years. It really isn't that close.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Peties Army View Post
      Sigh, I don't know what else to say,

      The orginal topic was that he should be an All Star. I said no and came up with two names having better years then Carroll. Rollins and Hanley are having better years. It really isn't that close.
      They really aren't having better years than him. In your opinion they are having better years just because they hit HRs and get more RBIs when they have a lot more opportunities. Look at all the stats.

      Jeter made the team and Carroll is having a better first half than him as well, but let's just let that go since you obviously don't understand how baseball works and seems like you go with popularity..... (Hanley Ramirez is having his worst season ever yet you think he's more deserving of an All-Star).
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      • #33
        Originally posted by JesRey View Post
        They really aren't having better years than him. In your opinion they are having better years just because they hit HRs and get more RBIs when they have a lot more opportunities. Look at all the stats.

        Jeter made the team and Carroll is having a better first half than him as well, but let's just let that go since you obviously don't understand how baseball works and seems like you go with popularity..... (Hanley Ramirez is having his worst season ever yet you think he's more deserving of an All-Star).

        I don't care about Jeter. Jeter was not part of the orginal point. Fine he is having a better year. I say he isn't, but whatever.

        Look at the stats

        Look at the stats and tell me who is having the better year.

        AB Runs RBI HR SB OBP SLG OPS
        341 51 35 8 19 337 384 721
        257 44 32 7 14 326 358 684
        274 36 8 0 5 368 368 736

        Just look at the numbers. Clearly the first guy is having the best year. Clearly batter number 2's much better counting stats more then make up for the edge in OPS. Even if you give batter 3 the extra 70 ABs, he isn't make up the difference in any stat. It really it isn't that close. Sorry

        I have already proven that the lineups are all pretty close. Phils are better then the other two, but they are all close

        And yes Hanley is having his worst year, and it is still better then Carrolls. Take off your Dodger Sunglasses and just look at the stats.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Peties Army View Post
          I don't care about Jeter. Jeter was not part of the orginal point. Fine he is having a better year. I say he isn't, but whatever.

          Look at the stats

          Look at the stats and tell me who is having the better year.

          AB Runs RBI HR SB OBP SLG OPS
          341 51 35 8 19 337 384 721
          257 44 32 7 14 326 358 684
          274 36 8 0 5 368 368 736

          Just look at the numbers. Clearly the first guy is having the best year. Clearly batter number 2's much better counting stats more then make up for the edge in OPS. Even if you give batter 3 the extra 70 ABs, he isn't make up the difference in any stat. It really it isn't that close. Sorry

          I have already proven that the lineups are all pretty close. Phils are better then the other two, but they are all close

          And yes Hanley is having his worst year, and it is still better then Carrolls. Take off your Dodger Sunglasses and just look at the stats.
          The .368 OBP is the guy I want. He gets on base for others, fans are so fascinated with HRs and RBIs.

          It's the little things that ball players do that should get recognized but obviously the average fan don't look at that.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by JesRey View Post
            The .368 OBP is the guy I want. He gets on base for others, fans are so fascinated with HRs and RBIs.

            It's the little things that ball players do that should get recognized but obviously the average fan don't look at that.
            Yes, you want a guy who gets on base .368, who doesn't steal any bases hits for no power, doesn't drive in any runs, when you have the option of two players who are slightly worse then him in OBP, but are much better then him doing everything else. ok

            Take off the Kirk Gibson for govener shirt and look at it.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Peties Army View Post
              Yes, you want a guy who gets on base .368, who doesn't steal any bases hits for no power, doesn't drive in any runs, when you have the option of two players who are slightly worse then him in OBP, but are much better then him doing everything else. ok

              Take off the Kirk Gibson for govener shirt and look at it.
              Find me an article that says Hanley should be an All-Star
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              • #37
                Originally posted by JesRey View Post
                Find me an article that says Hanley should be an All-Star

                I never said he should, I said he deserved it more then Carroll.

                You find me one, besides the one you or someone in LA wrote saying Carroll should be an All Star
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Peties Army View Post
                  I never said he should, I said he deserved it more then Carroll.

                  You find me one, besides the one you or someone in LA wrote saying Carroll should be an All Star
                  Done: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/u...didates-061311

                  Here's one from LA Times that you probably won't accept because it's from LA
                  Dodgers GM Ned Colletti: Jamey Carroll deserves All-Star consideration
                  http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dodgers/2011/06/dodgers-gm-ned-colletti-jamey-carroll-all-star.html
                  This article was originally on a blog post platform and may be missing photos, graphics or links.
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                  • #39
                    The first one was from almost a month ago. Anything saying he was snubbed or should be considered a replacement. Not really saying he should be in there.

                    The second one is a quote from his boss. If you talk to a GM they are going to tell you all their players deserve to be in there.

                    And read some of the comments. Even Dodgers fan don't think so.
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                    • #40
                      And I didn't want a stroy from LA because of course they are going to say he belongs there. Every city has written one of those over the last couple of days about their players.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Peties Army View Post
                        The first one was from almost a month ago. Anything saying he was snubbed or should be considered a replacement. Not really saying he should be in there.

                        The second one is a quote from his boss. If you talk to a GM they are going to tell you all their players deserve to be in there.

                        And read some of the comments. Even Dodgers fan don't think so.
                        He brought up his name because he deserves... He didn't say Aaron Miles or Chad Billingsley or Kurdoa. He said Jamey Carroll.
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                        • #42
                          Oh and since the Foxsports article here are his stats

                          Ave OBP RBI RUNS HR SB
                          .166 .285 0 3 0 3

                          Yeah, he really made that all star push
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by JesRey View Post
                            He brought up his name because he deserves... He didn't say Aaron Miles or Chad Billingsley or Kurdoa. He said Jamey Carroll.
                            He doesn't deserve it. It is not even close. He doesn't! I can not belive you don't see that. It is shocking how wrong you are.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Peties Army View Post
                              Oh and since the Foxsports article here are his stats

                              Ave OBP RBI RUNS HR SB
                              .166 .285 0 3 0 3

                              Yeah, he really made that all star push
                              Dee Gordon took his spot. Didn't play everyday
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Peties Army View Post
                                He doesn't deserve it. It is not even close. He doesn't! I can not belive you don't see that. It is shocking how wrong you are.
                                Says the guy who said Hanley Ramirez should be an all-star.

                                Everyone's opinions are wrong. Oh well
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