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Look at this
from 2006
Jeremy Bonderman went 14-8 with a 4.08 ERA and pitched 214 innings, he never had a better year in his career than in 2006.
Brandon Inge hit 27 HRs and drove in over 80 runs, his breakout season with power, nobody saw it coming.
Wil Ledezma pitched 60 innings and had an ERA of 3.58, never has had close to as solid as a year as he did in 2006.
Mike Maroth went 9-5 with an ERA of alittle over 4..He was money before he got injured, was big for the team in the begining of the year.
Craig Monroe, hit 28 HRs and drove in over 90 runs! Was argueably the MVP of the team in 06, was so clutch in the season, career season for him easily.
Nate Robertson went 13-13 and had an ERA of 3.84, easily his career season, he got hurt by not getting great run support, which is why he lost 13.
Kenny Rogers went 17-8 with an ERA of 3.84, he started the allstar game that season..while he wasnt terrible throughout his career, it was certianly a suprise to all as to how good he was.
Marcus Thames had 26 HRs and 60 RBIs, breakout season for him easily, had not done much in his career before 2006.
Jaime Walker had 47 innings pitched with an ERA of 2.81, his career year, and was essential to the bullpen
Joel Zumaya pitched 83.1 innings and had an ERA of 1.94 in his rookie season, best year of his career as he hasnt stayed healthy for a season since 2006.
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Just look at this, sure Leyland helped, but a group of guys put career years up which nobody saw coming. Then throw in Ordonez/Pudge in the middle of the lineup, Verlander had a great rookie season. It was lightning in a bottle, I compare it almost to the 2008 Rays.
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Originally posted by Ground Support View Postlol thats like Moosehead saying the other night Shaka Smart isn't that good of a coach and he was carried to the final four by someone elses players.
Originally posted by wheeler281 View PostSo can we up it
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Not EVERY manager, but alot of them could in my opinion..Leyland isn't the reason all those players performed well, but he gave them a chance, sure. Its like the 2008 Rays, they had a group of guys that had career years, its just one of those things that happened
But now 5 years later we have Leyland trying to recreate magic by having lovefests over guys like Don Kelly.
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I think he was important in 06, but not as important as you think, which is fine. I just dont want to reward him any longer for what he did in 2006. This team also got better because Mike Ilitch finally decided to put money into the Tigers and not just the Red Wings...I just want them to win, thats all I want..I can't afford any of 2nd halfs anymore, last year was hard enough and 2009 was crushing.
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Originally posted by gladdyontherise View PostLook at this
from 2006
Jeremy Bonderman went 14-8 with a 4.08 ERA and pitched 214 innings, he never had a better year in his career than in 2006.
Brandon Inge hit 27 HRs and drove in over 80 runs, his breakout season with power, nobody saw it coming.
Wil Ledezma pitched 60 innings and had an ERA of 3.58, never has had close to as solid as a year as he did in 2006.
Mike Maroth went 9-5 with an ERA of alittle over 4..He was money before he got injured, was big for the team in the begining of the year.
Craig Monroe, hit 28 HRs and drove in over 90 runs! Was argueably the MVP of the team in 06, was so clutch in the season, career season for him easily.
Nate Robertson went 13-13 and had an ERA of 3.84, easily his career season, he got hurt by not getting great run support, which is why he lost 13.
Kenny Rogers went 17-8 with an ERA of 3.84, he started the allstar game that season..while he wasnt terrible throughout his career, it was certianly a suprise to all as to how good he was.
Marcus Thames had 26 HRs and 60 RBIs, breakout season for him easily, had not done much in his career before 2006.
Jaime Walker had 47 innings pitched with an ERA of 2.81, his career year, and was essential to the bullpen
Joel Zumaya pitched 83.1 innings and had an ERA of 1.94 in his rookie season, best year of his career as he hasnt stayed healthy for a season since 2006.
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Just look at this, sure Leyland helped, but a group of guys put career years up which nobody saw coming. Then throw in Ordonez/Pudge in the middle of the lineup, Verlander had a great rookie season. It was lightning in a bottle, I compare it almost to the 2008 Rays.
Sorry, just a bitter Cardinals fan...sigpic
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